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Tuesday, October 30, 2007
Settlement in Fighting Sioux Lawsuit

The University of North Dakota has settled its lawsuit against the NCAA over the school's use of the Fighting Sioux nickname. Under the settlement, the University has three years to try to get support of the several Sioux tribes for continued use of the name; if it does, it can keep the nickname. UND can continue using the nickname in the meantime. The Standing Rock Sioux and the Spirit Lake Sioux both have opposed the nickname in the past and have stated that they will continue to do so, thus this settlement just may be postponing the inevitable. But in the meantime, the school and the state can continue to lobby the tribe and individual members for support.


This seems quite reasonable, but you are right: inevitable.

Anonymous Anonymous -- 10/30/2007 8:38 AM  

Arkansas State has been removed from the mascot sanction list after the board of trustees voted to drop the Indians nickname after this academic year. Fortunately Arkansas State didn't spend the money on legal fees the Sioux spent.

Blogger Mark -- 10/30/2007 8:52 AM  

Rightly or wrongly, the administration and the alumni base at UND seems uniquely passionate about this issue, more so, it seems, than many other schools.

Blogger Howard Wasserman -- 10/30/2007 1:49 PM  

Isn't some of the issue that their biggest donor will stop giving them money if they change the name?

He owns the hockey arena they play in, and leases it to them. He has made statements that inferred that if the name was ever changed, he'll kick them out of the arena and won't give it to them. As it stands now, they're just waiting for him to die (he's not a young man). Morbid, but it seems like this could be the truth behind pushing for an extension.

Anonymous Anonymous -- 10/30/2007 2:06 PM  

Sorry, I researched this. He died, but left the arena in a trust, and didn't give it to them. He's made it really hard for them to change the name and keep using it.

Anonymous Anonymous -- 10/30/2007 2:09 PM  

This guy was quite the character, if I am to believe all that I have read about him, the university would be well advised to take the financial hit and build their own arena, with a new name and logo.

Engelstad no doubt had more than just school-pride on his mind when he made his demands of keeping the controversial name and logo.

His past include holding private parties at his Las Vegas hotel on Adolf Hitler's birthday. Bartenders wore shirts bearing the Nazi dictator's picture and the slogan "Adolf Hitler - European Tour 1939-45." He also had collection of Nazi memorabilia stored in a private room within the casino-hotel, including a painting of himself dressed in a Nazi uniform (captioned "to Adolf from Ralphie"), a painting of Hitler with the reverse caption, and a collection of antique cars which contained vehicles alleged to have once belonged to German Nazi leaders.

Is this really the kind of person an institution of higher education should take its "marching orders" from???

use of the name and logo may be right or wrong, but fighting to keep this guy's support is just plain wrong!

Blogger Jimmy H -- 10/30/2007 3:21 PM  

The difference between this case and many other mascot cases is that gaining the favor of the tribe leaders will be hard because the Sioux is a nation of first peoples. Typically school mascot names are individual tribes (i.e. Seminoles)

Anonymous Anonymous -- 10/31/2007 12:34 PM  

Wisonson and tribal names

Anonymous Anonymous -- 10/31/2007 3:29 PM  

I think it's absurd. I don't see anything wrong with the use of the Fighting Sioux name. Schools pick their names that they think will be respected. I don't know why their is such a big fuss over the use of Indian names, as long as they aren't doing anything derogatory (such as the Atlanta Braves Chop). The question I have is if this is offensive, why hasn't anyone said anything about Fighting Irish? Wouldn't that be considered offensive to people of Irish heritage?

Anonymous Anonymous -- 12/07/2007 4:41 PM  

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